2022-01-26 Potato Data Sharing Meet Up

Participants

PresentNameCompany
XConny Graumans (Unlicensed)AgGateway
XDan Berne (Unlicensed)AgGateway
XNiek EngbersMcCain
XRenick MartinCulturaTech
XIvor BosloperDacom Farm Intelligence
XLeon SpätjensAgrovision
XDirk PetersLamb Weston Meijer
X

Andrew Jenkinson

Varda - Yara
XBen HattonProagrica
XAlistair KnottProagrica

Terms:

MSA = Moved, Seconded & Approved

Meeting Information

 Date
Wednesday January 26, 2022
 Time

16:00 - 17:30 CET (Paris, Amsterdam time)
9:00 - 10:30am CST (Chicago time)

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Purpose of meeting:

  • Recap results second Meet Up 23sep21
  • Finalize the project charter 'Potato Data Sharing'
  • Identify next steps
  • Closure

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Documents:

Agenda/Minutes


Topic (Leader)

Desired Outcome

Sub-topics, supporting documentation, additional resources

Meeting Minutes

1

Welcome, and Meeting Purpose
(Conny Graumans

Welcome the group - AgGateway Antitrust Guidelines


Conny welcomed attendees and outlined the 

2Appoint minutes Taker

A meeting taker has been selected.



3Introduction
(Conny Graumans

The group, especially new participants, are well informed about the work done so far.


Short introduction to the Potato Provenance charter and results so far (appendix 1).

Conny: Introduced the goals and objectives of the proposed working group and where we are in the process. 
4

Minutes previous meeting
(Conny Graumans

The minutes of the previous meeting are approved.


Minutes previous meeting, Thursday 23sep21 (appendix 2)



5

Potato Provenance Charter 
(Conny Graumans

The group understands the project charter and has the opportunity to comment on it.


Discuss draft Potato Provenance Charter (appendix 3)

Conny (AgGateway)Reviewed the deliverables of the work packages. He also reviewed the feedback so far. 

Reviewed the notes from the Sept 23 meeting.

FEEDBACK:

Alistair (Proagrica): This is a worthy effort, but there is enough interest from the FMIS companies for us to allocate resources. We've invested a lot of money to federate json messages. What are the financial benefits for us to participate? WP1 and WP 2 would be good place to start. Field names are often different. 

Conny(AgGateway)agreed that we would start with WP1. He also confirmed that joining the working group does not mean one has to adopt a standard that comes out of the group. We will finish the charter and reach out to the FMIS companies.

Ivor (Dacom): I share the same reluctance. It is a lot of work to maintain a standard. Have to maintain a multitude of code lists. Always having to map the data to code lists. Where is the monetary advantage?

Conny(AgGateway)The potato companies see an advantage of using one standard.

Ivor (Dacom): Create an open-source project that can access and transform the data that the potato companies can use to access and consume the data even if they are in different formats. 

Alistair (Proagrica): If we and our regional competitors can agree on a common purpose and agree on where we want to have federated data solutions. Focus on WP1. Why not just keep spatial shape files? 

Andrew (Varda - Yara): For us, it is attractive to call out the issues. 

Ivor (Dacom): Is WP1 focused on the data format? We can handle many different formats. Adding one extra format is not of much value. There is reason why there are many different standards. It's difficult to stay up to date with the changing standards.
Growers have to use with 6 or 7 different definitions of field boundaries, based on the use case.
In The Netherlands and Belgium the EDI-Crop standard is implemented to exchange crop related data; why not accept the data model of this standard as a preferred global semantic standard.

Dirk (Lamb Weston Meijer): Start with the FMIS companies

Niek (McCain):Start with spatial components/field boundaries. Farmers send coordinates but then we have to convert it. The coordinates are different across different countries/regions. We have to maintain the various API versions which takes time. Growers have to report the same data twice. 

Ben (Proagrica): What is the curated list for the potato company. Understand the key elements the farmer needs to deal with.

Leon (Agrovision): I agree with Alistair. It's a small group right now. It's a challenge when dealing with multiple regions. 

Andrew (Varda - Yara): Will not arrive at a single definition of a field boundary but we can address the problem of knowing how to access. Have a common integration point of where I can find the data. The burden falls on the integrator (i.e., McCains). Can we develop a common registry to find the different field boundary definitions?

Alistair (Proagrica): It's common to have split fields that are treated very differently. Potato companies need to know the crop zone boundary. Need to include the consumers of the data.

Conny(AgGateway)Let's focus on WP1: field boundaries and geo-spatial boundary definitions. 

Niek (McCain): McCain would like to see a higher level of standardization in delivering the crop related data to McCain. We could start with harmonizing the spatial component (the field boundaries, the crop zone boundaries) of the crop-field recordings. A smaller group can make a lot of progress.

6

Task WP 1
(Conny Graumans

The group agrees to the task specification for the workgroup for WP 1.


Discuss the task description workgroup for Work Package 1 (appendix 4)

Decision: Focus here on field boundaries and polygons. 
7Next steps  
(Conny Graumans

The group understands and agrees to the next steps to be taken.


  • Finalize the charter. 
  • Get it approved by AGW CIO/CEO.
  • Execute the Call for Participation.

Attendees: Please send Conny a few comments on your specific ideas on where we should focus. 

8Adjourn

The meeting is closed.



16:10 Paris Time
10:20 Chicago time.

Tasks/Action Items

WhoWhen AssignedWhatDeadline Status
Conny and Dan23 Sept 2021Use the feedback from this meeting to revise a charter proposal and reach out to FMIS companies. Conny and Dan will use the feedback from this meeting to revise a charter proposal and reach out to FMIS companies.Nov 8, 2021Done
Conny and Dan26 Jan 2022Rewrite charter to focus on WP1.Feb 15, 2022