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Meeting 8

Session 1

Stuart Rhea, Ben Craker, Hiroyuki Morita, Conny Graumans, Andres Ferreyra, Graham Mullier

  • Reviewed proposals discussed last time and decision during last meeting on adding is group flag along with the source of the grouping.

    • It was noted that Andres had been advocating for proposal 1, and Stuart for proposal 2, after discussing it was determined Andres was right

  • Was going to update the model, but Stuart has an issue with editing the file, may be just a limitation of the version of Enterprise Architect he is currently suing

  • For plenary in Berlin, will have ~5 mins to do a little intro/pitch of the AHG to get people engaged since people will be able to attend any AG and AHG meetings during the week, not just the ones they are a member of.

    • A primary goal should be to show the value and importance of the AHG to motivate interest

    • First suggestion would be to walk through use cases and show how the proposed model solves practical problems

      • Also looked at a first pass on how a ISO standard for crop definition could be laid out based on looking at other similar ISO standards

      • Idea that this could be used to provide practical application to get feedback and input from the audience

      • Belief that there are maybe two ways this list rolls out:

        • It is not really on peoples radar and do not get much engagement

        • Other option is there is a tidal wave of people wanting to put their information into the model

      • Should also touch on what the maintenance/management of the crop list repository looks like after the group is done and the definition model published

        • Need to male some sort of proposal on what ISO calls a management agency

      • Current plan for 90 minutes, but may get shorter if time is needed to accommodate all the different sessions

        • Propose maybe doing some post-it notes, or if we do digitally on Mural or some similar tool

        • Will have all people in all sessions (unless they wander off - need to make it sound interesting)

        • Will be difficult to do some more small-group type interactions

        • How do we get people to engage, especially getting people to talk in front of the larger group

        • Would be good to have an understanding on how the room is laid out and if we can dived up into sub-groups and rotate around stations in the room - one for each use case?

      • Session timeline

        • 15 minutes intro/background

        • 15 minute rotation of each of the four use cases (60 Minute total)

          • Apply model to use cases, ask for feedback and experience

        • 15 minutes summary recap

    • A general overview of the whole TC, it is hard for most people to follow what all the AHG’s are

      • Would be good to tie this back to the SAG

      • Also explain what an AHG does, how it leads to a WG

      • A 2-page handout or something on how to survive the week, what all the AHG’s, AG’s are

    • Do have the LinkedIn page to share things

    • There is also an official ISO Webpage under development

    • Ended at 9:00 am US Central time

Session 2

Stuart Rhea, Akane Takezaki, Hiroko Miura, Kenneth Irons

Agenda recap, reminder of plenary coming up in Berlin

Level set, recap of work-to-date

Recap of proposals for grouping crops for purposes of making automated decisions

  • e.g. some crop protection labels in some jurisdictions group crops and do not list each individually

Consensus was to go with proposal 1 with group being a special kind of CropDefinition

File shared by Andres corrupt in some way, Stuart unable to edit with above agree upon modifications

Stuart will recreate in a different tool and post to the AHG page on the ISO portal

Reviewed outline/skeleton of draft standard document for crop definition model

  • Current layout has an Annex B for detailed use cases

  • For plenary, plan is to have a 90 minute session that will not have any other concurrent sessions

  • How do we want to use that time with a number of agricultural subject matter experts

    • 15 minute introduction

      • Background and difficulties with the concept of crop

      • Discussion on previous efforts that have not hit the mark

      • Need to put this work in the context of the other AHGs

    • 60 minutes Review the proposed model in the context of each of 4 use cases

      • 15 minutes on each use case and how the model fits

    • Final 15 minutes encouraging engagement, feedback, contribute use cases, etc.

  • Discussion on logistics

    • Will take a few minutes if rotating through each of 4 stations so may only have ~10 minutes for feedback

    • Would be good to have someone familiar with each use case stationed by a white board/poster

    • Could provide initial quick overview and try and drive engagement

  • A big part of the meeting in Berlin should also be cross-functional alignment and how all the different AHGs fit together, how it fits within and without the overall organization

  • Do have a goal to put out a New Work Item Proposal out at the meeting as well

  • Questions on if there is time to discuss the use cases and get into the granularity needed

    • The detailed use case review could happen after the NWIP starts

      • Expectation is to contribute the initial use cases documented but believe they will be refined and additional use cases will also be uncovered/added

    • NWIP needs to include (See eFrom 4: https://www.iso.org/iso-forms-model-agendas-standard-letters.html )

      • Scope

      • Justification

      • …

    • Have a Google doc setup with some of the same sections as the overall framework diagram

    • Question on what the ISO preferred tool is, if it needs to be in the ISO portal or if it is acceptable to have group editing outside the portal for the AHG

    • Idea to put the purpose into the introduction paragraph of the working draft for the standard

      • In general the content of the Justification part of Form 4 is often moved to the introduction

        ​ Will transcribe the CropDefinition Mural outline into the Google doc